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		<title>By: dante_200</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3816</link>
		<author>dante_200</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 06:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just replying to your "reaction".......whenever I try to explain to someone
 ----"what it feels like" to me it's very similar to what has been described
 by many who have had psychic experiences....as just that.....AN OUT OF BODY
 EXPERIENCE! Almost everybody can relate to that analogy........It's as though
 the whole bloody,psychotic
 experience.....IS HAPPENING TO SOMEONE ELSE!
 Let me expound on another "treatment" that will explain what your reactions
 are to the unnitiated "common folk". In the early days of the discovery of
 insulin,hospitals
 use to give large doses of insulin to mental patients to induce convulsive
 reactions,similar to electric shock treatments. Insulin shock therapy was
 quite common at on time.....in the pre-historic era. So it's easy to explain
 your disorientation,and all the other "niceties" of a full blown hypogycemic
 reaction.
 Hope this fills you in on the dark ages of diabetes,and lends more to chat
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 talk.
 Everett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just replying to your &#8220;reaction&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.whenever I try to explain to someone<br />
 &#8212;-&#8221;what it feels like&#8221; to me it&#8217;s very similar to what has been described<br />
 by many who have had psychic experiences&#8230;.as just that&#8230;..AN OUT OF BODY<br />
 EXPERIENCE! Almost everybody can relate to that analogy&#8230;&#8230;..It&#8217;s as though<br />
 the whole bloody,psychotic<br />
 experience&#8230;..IS HAPPENING TO SOMEONE ELSE!<br />
 Let me expound on another &#8220;treatment&#8221; that will explain what your reactions<br />
 are to the unnitiated &#8220;common folk&#8221;. In the early days of the discovery of<br />
 insulin,hospitals<br />
 use to give large doses of insulin to mental patients to induce convulsive<br />
 reactions,similar to electric shock treatments. Insulin shock therapy was<br />
 quite common at on time&#8230;..in the pre-historic era. So it&#8217;s easy to explain<br />
 your disorientation,and all the other &#8220;niceties&#8221; of a full blown hypogycemic<br />
 reaction.<br />
 Hope this fills you in on the dark ages of diabetes,and lends more to chat<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 talk.<br />
 Everett</p>
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		<title>By: dante_200</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3809</link>
		<author>dante_200</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3809</guid>
		<description>having been a type 1 for over 50 years I can sympathize with all you guys and
 gals who went thru the prehistoric era of boiling needles,testing uruine,and
 strict adherence to non-sugar type foods.
 "reactions" are a way of life and thank goodness for my wife who can
 recognize a "low sugar" a mile away. Like one of your group participants,I
 have hypoglycemia awareness,and plunge down to the 20's and 30's,and still am
 able to function at a normal pace......in a way that really isn't too good
 since I have found myself in some pretty hairy situations,that only God
 protects drunks and fools!!
 I've had "reactions" behind the wheel of a car,in a bowling alley as I was
 standing with the ball held up over my head,in a hospital as my daughter was
 giving birth....and both of had to be attended to.....etc.etc.etc.
 The stories are legion,and you learn not to be afraid as much...and
 MAYBE...AND MAYBE..you learn not to be on such tight control as much and run
 a little higher when you are in circumstances that you don't have access to
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 food suppliments.
 In other words don't be an ass,and shift your potential problems onto others.
 Everett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>having been a type 1 for over 50 years I can sympathize with all you guys and<br />
 gals who went thru the prehistoric era of boiling needles,testing uruine,and<br />
 strict adherence to non-sugar type foods.<br />
 &#8220;reactions&#8221; are a way of life and thank goodness for my wife who can<br />
 recognize a &#8220;low sugar&#8221; a mile away. Like one of your group participants,I<br />
 have hypoglycemia awareness,and plunge down to the 20&#8217;s and 30&#8217;s,and still am<br />
 able to function at a normal pace&#8230;&#8230;in a way that really isn&#8217;t too good<br />
 since I have found myself in some pretty hairy situations,that only God<br />
 protects drunks and fools!!<br />
 I&#8217;ve had &#8220;reactions&#8221; behind the wheel of a car,in a bowling alley as I was<br />
 standing with the ball held up over my head,in a hospital as my daughter was<br />
 giving birth&#8230;.and both of had to be attended to&#8230;..etc.etc.etc.<br />
 The stories are legion,and you learn not to be afraid as much&#8230;and<br />
 MAYBE&#8230;AND MAYBE..you learn not to be on such tight control as much and run<br />
 a little higher when you are in circumstances that you don&#8217;t have access to<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 food suppliments.<br />
 In other words don&#8217;t be an ass,and shift your potential problems onto others.<br />
 Everett</p>
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		<title>By: carolann_70</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3807</link>
		<author>carolann_70</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3807</guid>
		<description>&#60;snip
 Another thing that has REALLY helped me on this list is that there are
 others who have grown up with this disease. It seems the local groups
 support mainly Type 2's OR parents/children with DM. But there's that gap of
 kids who grew up and STILL have it. It was 5 years for me before I met
 another young person with DM; until that time I thought I was the only one
 in the world. No one asked me my feelings about it nor counseled me. A DM
 kids camp was nearby but we couldn't *afford* it. HOWEVER, I was given $5 a
 week allowance ('50s) -- putting $2 a week away would have covered the $100
 fee (I was a kid and not financially responsible). I was kept dependent and
 sheltered. My demise was subtly referred to often. I've always felt there
 was a gap of support for grown-up T-1's support. The 'net has provided that.
 We can offer experiences and some knowledge to those newly dx'd whether T-,
 T-2, or one of the types of MODYs -- or otherwise have Q's.
 Have we overloaded you yet and told you more than you cared to hear? You
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 will have knowledge and experiences we may not have and value your input,
 Everett.
 Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;snip<br />
 Another thing that has REALLY helped me on this list is that there are<br />
 others who have grown up with this disease. It seems the local groups<br />
 support mainly Type 2&#8217;s OR parents/children with DM. But there&#8217;s that gap of<br />
 kids who grew up and STILL have it. It was 5 years for me before I met<br />
 another young person with DM; until that time I thought I was the only one<br />
 in the world. No one asked me my feelings about it nor counseled me. A DM<br />
 kids camp was nearby but we couldn&#8217;t *afford* it. HOWEVER, I was given $5 a<br />
 week allowance (&#8217;50s) &#8212; putting $2 a week away would have covered the $100<br />
 fee (I was a kid and not financially responsible). I was kept dependent and<br />
 sheltered. My demise was subtly referred to often. I&#8217;ve always felt there<br />
 was a gap of support for grown-up T-1&#8217;s support. The &#8216;net has provided that.<br />
 We can offer experiences and some knowledge to those newly dx&#8217;d whether T-,<br />
 T-2, or one of the types of MODYs &#8212; or otherwise have Q&#8217;s.<br />
 Have we overloaded you yet and told you more than you cared to hear? You<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 will have knowledge and experiences we may not have and value your input,<br />
 Everett.<br />
 Jan</p>
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		<title>By: carolann_70</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3806</link>
		<author>carolann_70</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3806</guid>
		<description>Everett,
 The spate of mail arriving is *mainly* because a 41-year-old Type 2 diabetic
 is a native of South Africa and desires to be an American. He fills much of
 his working hours by conversing with anyone on this list who will respond.
 About a dozen or so on this list are posters. We share much of what goes on
 with DM - and a lot more of daily life experiences. Marius will be back to
 work about 2:00-3:00 EDT today. You will notice a lot of activity again. If
 you like to laugh (or need to), this is the place to help deal with life
 with DM. Tears creep in often, too. We get lots of general info that *may*
 or may not be useful.
 I was dx'd in a coma at age 11 and will be having a B.A.S.H. (Bawling,
 Amazed anyone would care to come, Sincerity, and Humor) for my 50th anniv.
 of dx on 11/4/00. I have the paperwork to apply for the Joslin 50-year
 bronze medal. I have a collection of DM products (B-D injector, Clinitest
 set, glass syringes w/24g needles, whetstone to sharpen, etc.) that I will
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 have on display at the *event.* I was keeping a diary at the time of dx
 (coincidental) and am preparing a booklet as a keepsake and teaching tool
 about DM. I had a singing group volunteer yesterday to put on a half-hour
 program.
 I have personally met 5 people and a dog from this site. We are almost like
 family - to some it is our family. We would like to adopt you into our
 group. Please contribute and learn along with us.
 I live in north-central Indiana, will observe 40 years of marriage to my
 first hugsband in July (a combo observance at the B.A.S.H.), have a married
 dau and a son, as well as 4 grandchildren and 2 *foster* granddaughters.
 I have heard some really weird hypo stories (a lady standing naked in her
 window thinking it was a door and couldn't get out; another having to call
 Judge Ito to tell him her verdict, etc.). Would you share some of yours?
 Jan (often called w.O.w. = wise OLD woman)
 I have used an insulin pump since 8/23/83</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everett,<br />
 The spate of mail arriving is *mainly* because a 41-year-old Type 2 diabetic<br />
 is a native of South Africa and desires to be an American. He fills much of<br />
 his working hours by conversing with anyone on this list who will respond.<br />
 About a dozen or so on this list are posters. We share much of what goes on<br />
 with DM - and a lot more of daily life experiences. Marius will be back to<br />
 work about 2:00-3:00 EDT today. You will notice a lot of activity again. If<br />
 you like to laugh (or need to), this is the place to help deal with life<br />
 with DM. Tears creep in often, too. We get lots of general info that *may*<br />
 or may not be useful.<br />
 I was dx&#8217;d in a coma at age 11 and will be having a B.A.S.H. (Bawling,<br />
 Amazed anyone would care to come, Sincerity, and Humor) for my 50th anniv.<br />
 of dx on 11/4/00. I have the paperwork to apply for the Joslin 50-year<br />
 bronze medal. I have a collection of DM products (B-D injector, Clinitest<br />
 set, glass syringes w/24g needles, whetstone to sharpen, etc.) that I will<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 have on display at the *event.* I was keeping a diary at the time of dx<br />
 (coincidental) and am preparing a booklet as a keepsake and teaching tool<br />
 about DM. I had a singing group volunteer yesterday to put on a half-hour<br />
 program.<br />
 I have personally met 5 people and a dog from this site. We are almost like<br />
 family - to some it is our family. We would like to adopt you into our<br />
 group. Please contribute and learn along with us.<br />
 I live in north-central Indiana, will observe 40 years of marriage to my<br />
 first hugsband in July (a combo observance at the B.A.S.H.), have a married<br />
 dau and a son, as well as 4 grandchildren and 2 *foster* granddaughters.<br />
 I have heard some really weird hypo stories (a lady standing naked in her<br />
 window thinking it was a door and couldn&#8217;t get out; another having to call<br />
 Judge Ito to tell him her verdict, etc.). Would you share some of yours?<br />
 Jan (often called w.O.w. = wise OLD woman)<br />
 I have used an insulin pump since 8/23/83</p>
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		<title>By: dante_200</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3805</link>
		<author>dante_200</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3805</guid>
		<description>Yes,I'm aware that diabetes is a fact of life that I have lived with for over
50 years;but I was just curious over the spate of "diabetes" mail ALL at one
time!
NOT looking for anything specific in this area.....it's really a way of life
at this juncture.....would love to converse and add some experiences and
general knowledge attaimed over the years......Type 1 diabetic.....4 shots a
day...grateful for the advent of Humalog....some memorable "reactions along
the way....a wife who understands those "low-sugar"looks(carries a bag full
of cookies &#38; candies).
Exist on a regimen of regular and NPH at night with the occasional suppliment
of Humalog.......Everett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,I&#8217;m aware that diabetes is a fact of life that I have lived with for over<br />
50 years;but I was just curious over the spate of &#8220;diabetes&#8221; mail ALL at one<br />
time!<br />
NOT looking for anything specific in this area&#8230;..it&#8217;s really a way of life<br />
at this juncture&#8230;..would love to converse and add some experiences and<br />
general knowledge attaimed over the years&#8230;&#8230;Type 1 diabetic&#8230;..4 shots a<br />
day&#8230;grateful for the advent of Humalog&#8230;.some memorable &#8220;reactions along<br />
the way&#8230;.a wife who understands those &#8220;low-sugar&#8221;looks(carries a bag full<br />
of cookies &amp; candies).<br />
Exist on a regimen of regular and NPH at night with the occasional suppliment<br />
of Humalog&#8230;&#8230;.Everett</p>
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		<title>By: carolann_70</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3804</link>
		<author>carolann_70</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3804</guid>
		<description>Well,
Who are you and did you sign up on the diabetics@onelist.com ? It is now
diabetics@egroups.com . We're a loony bunch of people with diabetes in
common. We live everyday lives and love the friendship, support, caring,
venting abilities, laughing, and anything else about life with each other.
If that fits, then you are in the right place. A sense of humor is NOT
required, but it sure helps. Asking if you know us does not give us a clue
if we know you. ;)
Jan (60 y/o, Type-1 11/5/50, pmpg 8/23/83)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,<br />
Who are you and did you sign up on the <a href="mailto:diabetics@onelist.com">diabetics@onelist.com</a> ? It is now<br />
<a href="mailto:diabetics@egroups.com">diabetics@egroups.com</a> . We&#8217;re a loony bunch of people with diabetes in<br />
common. We live everyday lives and love the friendship, support, caring,<br />
venting abilities, laughing, and anything else about life with each other.<br />
If that fits, then you are in the right place. A sense of humor is NOT<br />
required, but it sure helps. Asking if you know us does not give us a clue<br />
if we know you. <img src='http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Jan (60 y/o, Type-1 11/5/50, pmpg 8/23/83)</p>
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		<title>By: dante_200</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3803</link>
		<author>dante_200</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3803</guid>
		<description>Do I know you people? Has my being a diabetic have ANY relationship to ALL
this e-mail? elf5@...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I know you people? Has my being a diabetic have ANY relationship to ALL<br />
this e-mail? <a href="mailto:elf5@...">elf5@&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: carolann_70</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3794</link>
		<author>carolann_70</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3794</guid>
		<description>Sounds like you'll be busy starting new lists. How do we subscribe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you&#8217;ll be busy starting new lists. How do we subscribe?</p>
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		<title>By: rodney_800</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3793</link>
		<author>rodney_800</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-3793</guid>
		<description>Were the atrocities of South Africa on topic?
gd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were the atrocities of South Africa on topic?<br />
gd</p>
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		<title>By: ocie5</title>
		<link>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-809</link>
		<author>ocie5</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.diabetes-information.alpinistka.net/2003/10/29/off-topic/#comment-809</guid>
		<description>In a message dated 10/2/99 11:32:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, becra@...
 writes:
 &#60;&#60; week and see
 Lily Tomlin in person. Again life is great...Yes I hurt at times, have
 down days, hate havingto take the prick and shot but I am alive...There
 is reason to lift that chin and look to the end of the tunnel for the
 great light. Hugs to all...AMEN Becki
 Becki,
 You have a wonderful attitude, which is so important. You are blessed to have
 a good marriage. Your hubby sounds so sweet. PTL!
 It is wonderful that you stay so busy. Busy doing fun things. I tried to
 ROLLERBLADE the other night and almost fell on my butt. My son and nephew
 each had an arm and I would have been down if not for them. I think the next
 activity will be bike riding. It is a little safer! This is from someone who
 always thought getting dressed was MORE than enough exercise!
 &lt;!--more--&gt;
 (((((hugs))))
 Christine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a message dated 10/2/99 11:32:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:becra@...">becra@&#8230;</a><br />
 writes:<br />
 &lt;&lt; week and see<br />
 Lily Tomlin in person. Again life is great&#8230;Yes I hurt at times, have<br />
 down days, hate havingto take the prick and shot but I am alive&#8230;There<br />
 is reason to lift that chin and look to the end of the tunnel for the<br />
 great light. Hugs to all&#8230;AMEN Becki<br />
 Becki,<br />
 You have a wonderful attitude, which is so important. You are blessed to have<br />
 a good marriage. Your hubby sounds so sweet. PTL!<br />
 It is wonderful that you stay so busy. Busy doing fun things. I tried to<br />
 ROLLERBLADE the other night and almost fell on my butt. My son and nephew<br />
 each had an arm and I would have been down if not for them. I think the next<br />
 activity will be bike riding. It is a little safer! This is from someone who<br />
 always thought getting dressed was MORE than enough exercise!<br />
 <!--more--><br />
 (((((hugs))))<br />
 Christine</p>
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